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8-80 Cities Report - Public Meeting


All, there's a public meeting to discuss the 8-80 Cities report that's been released. See below for details. I've posted the report at

8-80 Cities Report
http://www.mikebroekhoven.com/8-80/Kingston-Bwater-Park-17-09-12.pdf

The kiteboarders get special mention.

page 47 has kite boarding zones at beach near pipe and eastern beach near steam plant
page 48 notes the importance of safe places to land.
page 51 has kites in the air ! Though our east landing spot has been carved up.

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From: Jarron-Hebert,Kristine
Sent: September 21, 2012 11:18 AM
Subject: Notice of Public Meeting -Oct 3, 2012 7 p.m. in Memorial Hall City Hall (216 Ontario Street)

September 21, 2012

Good Afternoon,

Please reserve the evening of Oct 3rd to attend a public meeting on Breakwater Park (7 p.m. City Hall in Memorial Hall) Claude Cormier +Associes will be presenting their conceptual design for Breakwater Park. Please let friends and neighbours know as we want as much feedback as possible! The meeting will be advertised this Saturday in the Whig Standard as well as 2 more times on the City page prior to the meeting. Attached is the final report from 8-80 Cities outlining their process, findings and recommendations from their public consultation process back in February and July.

If you have any questions please call me at the number below.

Thanks.
Kristine Hebert
Parks +Open Space Planning Coordinator
Parks Development
Recreation + Leisure Services
Community Services Group
Tel: 613-546-4291 ext 1256
Fax: 613-546-1899
khebert@cityofkingston.ca
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Re: 8-80 Cities Report - Public Meeting


It is true kiting did get special attention in the report and there is a graphic thatwas prepared but that was when the project did not include the launch ares. The 8-80 report does not include the PUC lands which is the most important part to us. The newest plan includes redevelopment of thegrassy field which will add a pathway across the launch, a fake sand beach, light standards, trees and furniture. This all happens in the general launch area. Apparently an area is protected for us but the path and the surrounding trees and lights could be an issue. We should try and get a good turnout at the meeting... Hopefully we can ensure the protection of an appropriatley sized area.
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Has anyone actually seen a drawing? Are we going from the mock up photos in the report or is there an actual plan that someone has seen?

If they went and planned a walkway through the launch, possibly with benches and even lights this entire process has been a total sham. We were not only present in sufficient numbers to ensure our interests were represented at every outreach and information gathering session, they actually had a specific meeting with a good size group of kiters as a special interest group. All the pertinent information was given, and given, and given again. If it has been completely disregarded, the whole process is a bit of a farce.

Agreed that we need to have sufficient numbers at all future meetings, including the one on Oct 3rd.

I'm not going to actually get pissed off until someone shows a draft that really hurts our access. What happened to the idea that the PUC land was undevelopable due to underlying tanks and pipe works?

I guess well see soon enough.

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Yeah, it is true we gave a lot of good input during the process; however a potential disconnect is the 8-80 report on the website which was based on the consultation processes does not include the PUC/Utilities Kingston lands in the analysis. This area was originally excluded from the project area but midway through the summer and after the consultations the project was expanded to include the grassy field. On page 47 of the report there is a graphic which identifies the park boundary to the west at about the big outflow culvert. As you can see the vicinity of the culvert is identified for kiteboarding; I am sure most would agree this is not really the area we use. Anyways, you are right, wait and see but as the 8-80 report incorrectly locates the kiteboarding area, it will be important to ensure the area we actually use remains free of obstacles in the final plan.
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Have had a look at the drawing that is up on the city of kingston web site.

http://www.cityofkingston.ca/residents/recreation/parks/breakwater/

Have to say, not all that upset with it. Of course there are some issues, but they have considered our needs if not totally understood them. The beach chairs and umbrellas are probably a bit of window dressing and not really sustainable in a public park if they are anything less than solid metal and fixed in place. Hopefully we can get that and a few trees re evaluated. Then its just a minor alteration to the path and we could have a really nice set up. Certainly better than a rusted pipe!
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But I like the pipe ! Gives me that adrenaline rush every time I come in --- will a gust push me into that twisted rusty metal edge ?

For those who haven't heard, there's a meeting at 7:30 p.m. Tues (today) at the Queen's Inn on Brock St to discuss an approach to presenting this to the city, and a meeting at the city Wed (tomorrow) at 7:00 p.m. Details are in the link Brent posted above. Come out and help lobby for our launch. Construction starts spring of 2013, so this is real.
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If you kiteboard at Breakwater Park in Kingston, things are about to change for us. If there is a time to be present and help advocate for accessibility and safety at our only launch, now is the time so please join in. A group of local kiters has advocated for kiting by engaging and educating the design consultations this past spring and summer, and now that the project has moved from the consultants to the planner/designers, we have formulated a response to the newly proposed Breakwater Park plan which includes the PUC Dock (not part of the original redevelopment project). As such, there is much work left for us to do ensuring that both kiters and park users are safe, if not thriving on this coveted grassy knoll. So, the more hands on deck and the more united our voice, the better. Here's how you can do your part:

1. Attend the plan presentation and open discussion at Kingston City Hall tonight, Wednesday October 3 at 7pm.

2. Get the latest details of the plan here: http://www.cityofkingston.ca/residents/recreation/parks/breakwater/

3. Complete the survey at the above link, and get everyone else you know to complete it as well. Survey closes Oct 21st.



4. If you want to take a more active role, speak with Kathryn, Rob, Grant, Mike B. or Brian T. tonight - we will add you to the email list where we've been throwing ideas around so far. Depending on what we learn tonight, some of our ideas may need to be demonstrated to the planners/designers and we may need to reach out to councilors and experts to add weight to our recommendations.

5. We must demonstrate utmost respect for our launch if we want others to do the same. For all users of the area, this is a time when we may be under more scrutiny with respect to our behaviour at the PUC dock, so at the very least, be extra safe, engage positively with other park users, and adhere to provincial and local laws. Let's all do our best to make good decisions and if you or someone else needs help or a reminder, step up and do what needs to be done to keep kiting alive and well in our town.

See you tonight!

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excellent points Brian, we all need to be super polite to other park users for the next while, and make sure no one has any cause to step up and say anything negative about kiters.
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